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Today, I sit down with the president of The Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts, to discuss Heritage’s comprehensive strategy to win “the new Cold War” with the Chinese Communist Party, how Heritage has changed since Roberts’s arrival, the 2025 Presidential Transition Project, and Tucker Carlson’s last speech as a Fox host at Heritage’s 50th Anniversary Celebration.
“The deep state, the administrative state more broadly, is the rotten fruit of our individual members of Congress … not having the courage to pass bills or kill bills on behalf of self-governance,” says Roberts.
“This is precisely why Heritage—along with 54 other conservative organizations, 400 policy scholars—has been working so intently on Project 2025, the aim of which is to take the biggest dagger ever and place it firmly in the center of the heart of the deep state.”
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